With all this yakkity yak going around about a race card, I started to wonder...humm, what exactly does this supposed race card look like anyway. Is it one of the cards in the Tarot deck? Or maybe its the King of Spades. Perhaps its one of those colored pieces of paper you get at the race tracks with all the information of your bets on it.
Well its an elusive thing this race card, but John McCain thinks he knows what it looks like pretty well, so maybe I should ask him.
What does the race card look like exactly?
By lailah23 - Posted on August 6th, 2008
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It's a joker, eating watermelon and raping a white woman.
OUCH! I think you might be right. You have to design and race card just as you describe it and send it to John McCain so he will know once and for all what one looks like and will know without doubt when its been dealt. But I must caution, why must the RACE card only deal with "black" racial sterotypes? Why can't the RACE card be a white jockey on the jack of clubs?
No, silly, white people don't have a race- they are the Universal Human Standard! Didn't you know that?
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Race in the general election is getting annoying.
For one, Americans are too uncomfortable about candidly discussing the issue of race.
Race in America dwells on the classic Black-White racial dichotomy, which fails to explain the experience of non-African Americans who now make up the bulk of non-white peoples in America.
Obama has disappointed me again with his apparent distance in regards to reaching out to the Muslim community, his "flip flop" concerning the issue of Iran's nuclear ambitions, his pandering to pro-Israeli lobbyists in the Washington Beltway, his wearing a yamulke to the Wailing Wall but objecting to people showing him in Somali Muslim garb in Kenya, and his apparent prohibition of wearing green in the Middle East when meeting with Arab leaders, because green is the color of Islam and the Rasul.
He has made no appearance at a mosque, and has only sent representatives from his campaign to speak to Muslim Americans.
He perpetuates the ignorance and collective cloud of guilt which all Muslims are tainted with.
How is this representative of change?
He has proven to be nothing more than a conventional politician.
On the issue of reaching out to the "Catholic voting bloc" he supports partial birth abortions. I believe in reproductive choice, but certain procedures should only be allowed in very severe conditions that are life threatening to the mother, but his voting record is indicative of the fact that he is a "too far Left" and not centrist enough.
On the issue of energy policy, offshore drilling is pursued by the Brazilians in conjunction with development in biofuels.
Wind and solar alone are not proven panaceas nor currently cost efficient.
His comments concerning the Iraqi surplus is insulting and does not bode well with any Muslim voter who realizes that the United States destroyed the Baath regime, had no plans for reconstruction, and initially dismissed the potency of the counterinsurgency.
I'm not saying democratic reforms and revolutions are not needed in the Muslim world, but the ruling oligarchies are a better alternative to chaos and the influx of foreign fighters engaging in nihilism.
Now that Iraq after 5 years is expressing confidence to govern, it needs the surplus cash revenue to rebuild.
Don't trivialize Iraqi progress to appeal to cash-strap Americans. Leave the populism to McCain.
Obama may be eagerly awaited in Europe, where Muslims are treated like pariahs and Africans are far from integrating in a "browning Europe." Europeans have always treated American Blacks as novelties, but have a poor record in integration with their own ethnic minorities.
In France alone, 70% of inmates are of a Muslim heritage. Something is certainly awry in France, even if Arabs in France trade in their native language for French.
But Obama disappointed Muslim leaders in the Middle East, as he has disappointed some Muslims domestically.
He should embrace his name, including Hussein, and speak about the issue of Islam and the modern political world to his white adoring "Hannah Montana" fans.
Obama never was a muslim.. Why would your expectations of him be in line with a man who is a muslim? Second, he is running for president which means you become something you are not to win and that includes sucking up to Israel. McCain will do the dance to. just wait. They all do it. Expecting an American president to not bow to Israel, what have you been smoking?
I differ with you though, Muslim leaders in the ME were not disappointed in Obama. Europeans loved him, and even the Georgian president speaks highly of him. Okay Asians, Afghani's have problems with blacks, and you do to, so its hard to separate out what is real and what is "I can't get behind a black man." It's not because of any lack of Islam or recognizing his roots. He was raised basically without religion or very little. I would like it if he verbally acknowledged his roots, his muslim roots. That were not realized in his life, but perhaps should have been. Too bad America punishes people who are different, and he is accutely aware of being different so is he not about to do things that make him a sore thumb. But he is smart, he has the right attitude and I think he will be good for this country.
Repeat after me....NO MORE OLD WHITE MEN.......
This is not about his Muslim roots. I'm aware his grandfather converted to Islam and his father was an atheist.
This has nothing to do with his race.
Many Blacks did not support his candidacy initially including Jesse Jackson, Magic Johnson, Maya Angelou, and P. Diddy who all initially supported Hillary Clinton. I also supported Hillary Clinton's bid for the presidency.
So you admit, that Obama is not about "change" then. He basically must lie like all politicians to convince naive working class whites, the bulk of Hillary's support base and white female feminists, not to defect and go "McCain" this fall.
I neither like McCain.
Rather than attacking my points, you pull the "race card."
If you continue to insult Muslims because of their heritage, why did you marry an Iranian man in the first place?
You may refute their claim to being "Aryan" but the term only means "people" and never had a sinister meaning until Nazis corrupted the term forever.
It is in the same manner in which "jihad" and "madrassa" now have sinister meanings when discussed in the English language.
The Obama campaign, filled with white liberals from the East Coast, tried to paint the Clintons as racists. They advice Obama to approach the Muslim community with caution.
He threw Jeremiah Wright under the bus. But you know, Jeremiah Wright was no nut job. Despite his flare, much of what he has said in the past was not controversial. However, when the pastor became the focus of his bid to become president, he threw him under the bus. Suddenly, Obama was painted in the "angry Black man" broad brush stroke. The man even initially didn't want to be typecast as the "Black candidate" since to do so when mean not gaining the necessary 270 electoral votes needed to win the White House.
Even in a recent event, Black college students have questioned Obama's blackness.
Do you accuse Obama's Black critics of racism when they do not rally around this man because of his father's racial heritage?
I will vote for Obama, but I'm not an enthusiastic supporter of his and it has nothing at all to do about his race.
I would be more willing to support Condoleeza Rice if she was to run for the presidency or Collin Powell than Obama. Unlike Obama, they are better qualified.
But one must question his support of controversial abortion methods.
Many Muslims have similar values and opinions on abortion as Catholics in this country. In fact, when it comes to "family values," Muslims are not much different from their Catholic and Evangelical Christian counterparts.
What controversial abortion methods has Barack Obama shown support for? And the last time I checked, neither candidate was a gynecologist, so why the heck should they be discussing medical procedures? (yes, I know, a loaded question)
Partial birth abortion, which is a gruesome procedure where the child is aborted in the last trimester, born with legs first, and then the skull is punctured and the brain drained out.
Some women use abortion as a contraceptive device. I know women who have had abortions repeatedly, rather than using a condom, spermicide, or dental dam to prevent conception. In these cases, I don't support the wanton destruction of life because a woman was reckless and careless.
Obama is not the "Black candidate" since he will lose the White House. He must "transcend race" but I am no more enthusiastic about him than I was about Kerry.
Obama is not the "candidate of change." His "change" gospel is empty political rhetoric, he is nothing more than a conventional politician with a darker complexion running for the highest office in the land for a major party.
Your bad experience with Asian Muslims should not taint your belief that I have underlining racial animosity towards African Americans.
Some Asians are jerks, but trust me, the feeling of exclusion in the masjid and Islamic center comes in many forms. The experience is quite common, and your race alone is not the only factor for exclusion.
Your being a revert and female can also play a factor. Your brash outspokenness can also disturb Asians who feel women should remain silent and demure.
That is a fat load of rubbish, brought to you by the same folk who attempted to conflate pregnancy prevention with pregnancy termination. And perhaps you know some women who have had several abortions and declined to use birth control, but I've counseled many, many more for whom birth control failed, made them intolerably ill, or got pregnant through rape. Medical decisions should not be the province of politicians or accountants- they belong between a woman, her health care provider, and whoever they invite to help make the decision.
First of all Obama's FATHER was KEnyan and Muslim not a convert. For goodness sake. And second his mother raised him, and not as a musim so lets get that part straight. Blacks have always supported Obama. The likes of Jesse and Sharpton where sharlatans anyway, and the Clintons were the closeset thing blacks had to candidates who showed at least some connnection and compassion to the black causes. At a groud roots level blacks are cheering and happy Obama is a nominee. And black women are happy that finally we have a black man, who has a gorgeous, well educated black women on his arm, whom he loves, and he's taking her to the white house to make her first lady. Politicians are not usually that well versed on all topics to make decisions unilaterally that is why they hire aides and researchers. Who cares what any one of them thinks about abortion? Its always going to a an election year hot ticket because it can never be solves, and it can always be bandied about ad naseum. The Quran is against abortion unless the mothers life is at danger, I agree with this. If a woman seeks abortion, its because of two reasons; She was forced to get pregnant and doesn't want to have or raise a baby she doesn't love, or she had sex, got pregant due to carelessness and isn't ready to raise a child. To each dilemna there is an answer, adoption. And if I offend Asian Muslims, I do not offend them because of anything I say, its who I am. This forum is for talk, and its for tough talk, and discussion on issues that effect us all. The question what is the race card was rhetorical and whimsy. To give us something to think about. But someone answered the question. Did I make them do that? Even though you college students blah blah blah, I can't help but ask did anyone ask this at historically black colleges? Probably not. I think if you want truths about Obama, you have to get off certain internet sites and go to black internet sites and read what they write. Sure we are not monolithic in our support of Obama, but do we have to be to make him a legitimte black candidate. He is simply a candidate, and he doesn't have to run on his race. He is running on a platform designed to instigate thought and reform of the parties and the government. This is what scares Americans of all races. McCain is safe because he echoes Bush like politics. I am offended that you would say GM that I offend Asian Muslims. I think you have alot to learn. I have a right to speak, and if you don't like it, or agree, than I accept that. My words may appear harsh, but we live in a world were a word can educated as well, and even if you find that you don't like what I say than at least you've read what I've written. And then you get personal, tsk tsk you step into my personal life. Why did I marry my husband who is Persian? Well because he pursued me and wanted ME. I married him. Hard to believe? It's true Persian men can love a black woman and often do. And Afghani men too, and Pakistani men too. Guess what? We are just humans, people, just like you. Maybe we don't have a culture built around the belief that everyone else is ugly except us, and everyone else is stupid accept us, and what a great country or nation we come from. Black people don't have it like that. But then I know from our previous discussions that you had bad interactions with "blacks" as you put it, and therefore you are scared. I have to ask why is it no matter whom you talk to; pakistani's , Afgani's etc. they always have stories to tell about bad interactions with black people. Is it from putting stores in black neighborhoods and selling liquor? Or perhaps making nasty comments to black people and expecting them to ignore them? Is it thinking you are superior here in this country? And you aren't. Surprise. I think GM. You are a challege.
But you will get there. But you can't shut me up because I fear you because you are white and you can't shut me up because you are going to play that real old race card on me, of black women who are ....... Yep recall the post was what does the race card look like, and i 3would say your response was a good answer, the race card is bringing race in where it need not be to make your points.
Do you even comprehend my postings, his grandfather was a convert to Islam. His father was irreligious, an atheist like you said in a previous post.
Reread what I wrote, then make sure you comprehend what I said, before you make points that have no relevance to my posts.
I never told you to shut up, but you have made disparaging remarks which characterize all Asian Muslims as having anti-Black racist sentiments.
The mosque in America is not immune from racism.
Many cultural Muslims do possess a sense of superiority because they were born in the faith, and feel they are more knowledgeable of all things Islamic.
Churches in America are divided, catering to congregations on the basis of race, immigration status, class standing, and religious outlook and theology.
It is not surprising that the mosque, which offers less options for Muslim worshipers in terms of personal taste, will be the site of conflict over issues where churches in America can simply afford to engage in schism.
Okay, I am all spent on this topic. GM you are a good person, but we don't see eye to eye.
I was watching MTV news, and there is a riff in the hip hop community over Obama. Even in the realm of commercial hip hop, not all artists are behind Obama.
Obama has certainly created a buzz and interest internationally in this year's presidential election.
Why should we care what entertainers think about politics? Legal scholars, political science experts, perhaps but not entertainers. They are people, just like us, and they've the right to speak their piece, but really, why should they get any more attention on politics than any other random person? I guess this is just more invented "news" for a typically vapid campaign season.